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Joy Reid Suggests Republicans Hate Biden Because He Was VP to "The Black President"
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Ubiquitous
2022-01-10 09:31:13 UTC
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MSNBC’s Joy Reid claimed that Republicans loathe President Joe Biden
because he was vice president to President Barack Obama, who the host
inferred was not liked by conservatives because he was “the Black
president.”

Guests Matthew Dowd and former Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) joined The
ReidOut Wednesday to discuss the prospect of the Republican Party
gaining full control of Congress later this year.

Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has “failed.”

“If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed,” Dowd said. “One of the problems
that I have with what’s happened over the last five years is that our
democracy has gone under a stress test.”

The former advisor to President George W. Bush then described the
country as being wounded and in need of a permanent cure, rather than
medicine to treat its symptoms.

Reid responded by stating she believes Republican voters are
fundamentally opposed to Biden because he served in the administration
of the country’s first Black commander-in-chief.

“Yeah. I mean, I totally agree with you. So, tomorrow president Biden
is going to speak, and there is a question of whether or not he
actually can change this, or he can alter it at all,” Reid said.
“Because unbelievably, he has become for Republicans as much of a sort
of figure of hatred, a hate object, as President Obama was. You know,
the Black president.

“Like, he was his vice president, maybe that’s part of it. I don’t know
what it is. But this is the like the most sort of norm, core Democrat
ever. He’s a moderate, you know, sort of ordinary Democrat. There’s
nothing outrageous about him, but they have cast him as some sort of
demonic character.”

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BTR1701
2022-01-10 15:38:35 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has “failed.”
“If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed,” Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.

Unreal.
suzeeq
2022-01-10 17:04:56 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has “failed.”
“If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed,” Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
That seems to be the attitude of the republicans too. If they don't win
every election, there was voter fraud.
Adam H. Kerman
2022-01-10 18:01:51 UTC
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Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has "failed."
"If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed," Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
That seems to be the attitude of the republicans too. If they don't win
every election, there was voter fraud.
Good point. Trump declared "voter fraud" before the 2020 election, and
Republicans turned out in record numbers and they won quite a few seats
in the House that Democrats held previously. They did quite well in state
elections.

They really really really need to stop whining.
anim8rfsk
2022-01-10 19:28:17 UTC
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Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has "failed."
"If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed," Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
That seems to be the attitude of the republicans too. If they don't win
every election, there was voter fraud.
Good point. Trump declared "voter fraud" before the 2020 election, and
Republicans turned out in record numbers and they won quite a few seats
in the House that Democrats held previously. They did quite well in state
elections.
They really really really need to stop whining.
I’ll stop whining when they stop stealing my ballot
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suzeeq
2022-01-10 20:23:16 UTC
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Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has "failed."
"If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed," Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
That seems to be the attitude of the republicans too. If they don't win
every election, there was voter fraud.
Good point. Trump declared "voter fraud" before the 2020 election, and
Republicans turned out in record numbers and they won quite a few seats
in the House that Democrats held previously. They did quite well in state
elections.
They really really really need to stop whining.
I’ll stop whining when they stop stealing my ballot
That's not anyone's fault except your local post office.
Ubiquitous
2022-01-11 12:21:35 UTC
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Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has "failed."
"If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed," Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
That seems to be the attitude of the republicans too. If they don't win
every election, there was voter fraud.
Good point. Trump declared "voter fraud" before the 2020 election, and
Republicans turned out in record numbers and they won quite a few seats
in the House that Democrats held previously. They did quite well in state
elections.
They really really really need to stop whining.
I'll stop whining when they stop stealing my ballot
That's not anyone's fault except your local post office.
The Post Office is run by people who didn't want Trump to win.

[Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

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BTR1701
2022-01-10 20:31:02 UTC
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Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has "failed."
"If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed," Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
That seems to be the attitude of the republicans too. If they don't win
every election, there was voter fraud.
Good point. Trump declared "voter fraud" before the 2020 election
What no one seems to remember is that a wide range of Democrats were also
saying that if Trump won in 2020 that would be evidence of election
tampering.
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They really really really need to stop whining.
I don't think it's whining to tell them they're full of shit when they
clutch their pearls and bemoan the end of democracy if Democrats don't win
everything forever and ever and ever.
Ubiquitous
2022-01-10 20:54:05 UTC
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Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has "failed."
"If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed," Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
That seems to be the attitude of the republicans too. If they don't win
every election, there was voter fraud.
Good point. Trump declared "voter fraud" before the 2020 election, and
Republicans turned out in record numbers and they won quite a few seats
in the House that Democrats held previously. They did quite well in state
elections.
I do not recall him pre-emptively declaring "voter fruad", but the signs were
there, like the mass mailing of ballots and Unconstitutional voter law
changes that facilitated voter fraud.

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Let's go Brandon!
Ubiquitous
2022-01-10 20:31:02 UTC
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Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has “failed.”
“If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed,” Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
That seems to be the attitude of the republicans too. If they don't win
every election, there was voter fraud.
Wrong. Democrats have cried "voter fraud" since Al Gore failed to steal
the election in 2000; in fact, they now do it pre-emptively, like they
did in the last two elections (2016 and 2020). What is it with leftists
accussing others of what they do?

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Trump won.
Ubiquitous
2022-01-10 18:43:13 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has “failed.”
“If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed,” Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
Nutcases? That's been mainstream for awhile now.

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Let's go Brandon!
Adam H. Kerman
2022-01-10 17:57:24 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Dowd commented that if the GOP takes control of the House and Senate,
it will serve to him as proof that American democracy has "failed."
"If the Republicans take the Congress back and the Senate in 2022 and
we have a presidential election unfold, then I think we are at the
point where our democracy is failed," Dowd said.
So we've reached the point where these nutcases are literally saying if
Democrats don't win every election from now on, democracy is over.
Unreal.
Another way to look at it is Democrats aren't offering a reason to vote
for them and the current Congress just doesn't care to demonstrate that
it can govern.
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